TELLING any woman she is "just being hysterical" is never a good idea.
Saying it publicly to a woman who is suggesting that too many men are dismissive of what women say and think, is probably a worse idea.
Conservative radio host Steve Price ended up in a battle of wills with The Guardian columnist and feminist activist Van Badham on ABC's Q&A last night, as the pair attempted to say whether or not a joke about a female journalist being "drowned" on a national radio show went too far.
Audience member Tarang Chawla told how his 23-year-old sister was killed by a meat cleaver wielded by her partner, then asked how politicians and media will help change the culture so deaths like those of his sister Nikitta were not "normalised".
Price went first, saying "far too much" was made of the jokes while conceding they were inappropriate.
"I think too much was made of what was originally a joke on a football show," Price said.
Badham was up next, who delivered heartfelt condolences to Tarang about his sister, then said jokes like those made on Triple M by Eddie McGuire and others needed to be taken seriously.
From there, she said Price was in a position as "one of those blokes who is probably being in on some of those jokes", which offended Price, driving him to interrupt.
"Don't tar me with that brush," Price said.
And off they went!
" Do you have any understanding what you're doing? This man has given us an extremely upsetting story about what happened and you are defending yourself in the context where we have to have a conversation aboutcultural attitudes that treat women differently..." Badham said.
"Just because you're a woman, you're not the only one who can get upset. Men can be just as upset..." Price responded.
"Thank you. You're proving my point very excellently about the attitudes..." said Badham, to audience cheers.
"So I think we need to bring up that the challenges are multifaceted.
"One, we have to stop creating these binary men are this, women are this, masculinity is this, femininity is this, men have high status, women have low status, we can make jokes and it's all jokes and, yeah, they apologised and that's fine but on the receiving send the ludicrous proportion of women who do endure violence".
"I think you're just being hysterical," Price said.
"It is probably my ovaries making me do it, Steve!"
Unsurprisingly, the Twitter hashtag, #myoveriesmademedoit has been going gangbusters since, as women praise Van Badham's cutting response.
And as if that wasn't enough excitement, One Nation leader Pauline Hanson is due to be on the panel next week.
Who will be joining her is not yet clear, but no doubt there will be some great quotes from that edition.
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